So yeah it is a vent I wish to share with everybody as these items retains taking place at my office by non-designers. I ain’t having my 4-year diploma for individuals to inform me what to do trigger that is my job to do, not you. I can repair one a part of it if there’s a official cause behind it however in order for you me to repair the entire thing in your picture, do it your self.
I perceive the gamble for freelancers working instantly with purchasers, however for me this retains taking place with co-workers from different departments.
I want they might perceive us higher.
I’m in-house as well and I’ve found that people in non-creative departments can absolutely crave that creative input. I pick my battles when it comes to that stuff. In the end, if a co-worker in sales is happy and confident, they are probably going to sell that product even if the PowerPoint has a spinning screenshot of a computer talking to a duck, even if I really wish it didn’t.
I hear ya and Im glad Im out of that situation. I work for a company now that has art/creative directors in every possible creative department. Nobody from marketing, copywriting, sales, etc can make us do any of their art-sy ideas especially ones that does not conform to our own department’s style guides.
Dont you have a supervisor in your department you can talk to about it? Show the most hideously looking ones to your supervisor. Tell him/her one day, someone will get into trouble for releasing such designs and it will most probably be you or your boss. You will lose almost every time if your defense is “but the copywriter told me to change the colors” coz they can always come back sayin “Im just a copywriter, you’re the designer etc”.
I think what I did before that worked was I started telling people: “I actually dont agree with your ideas and since this is design we’re changing which is within my scope of responsibility so its my job on the line if this creates issues, please send me an email with all your changes. Also indicate why its very important to you or the company that I do the changes. I will gladly comply as soon as I receive it.” Ever since then, requests have slowed down and eventually gone.
Hope it gets better for ya!
Honestly, if I’m getting paid well, I wouldn’t care at all.
If they are people you’re doing designs for then you’re providing a service to them. It’s not about your own personal expression or executing an ideal concept. A lot comes down to the communication and designers have to do most of the heavy lifting in that regard, it’s not 50-50 because they aren’t designers.
That said, where you get issues that aren’t within the responsibility of the designer are when a workplace hasn’t clarified roles or hierarchy. You basically have people overstepping their bounds or outright bullying the designer around, and the designer has no recourse either because the designer’s boss isn’t doing thier job, or internal politics have rendered you both ineffective.
>I ain’t having my 4-year degree for people to tell me what to do cause that’s my job to do, not you.
Be careful of this attitude because that degree means shit all if you aren’t actually good at your job, and that involves working with people not just getting a little brief and then doing it all yourself. You have to work within the limitations/perimeters and context of a job. If it means figuring out what you need from certain people, then that’s part of the job. Your degree should’ve helped teach you that.
>I can fix one part of it if there is a legitimate reason behind it but if you want me to fix the whole thing in your image, do it yourself.
No, you juts do it and collect the paycheque. It’s incredibly easy to just give people the shit they’re asking for.
And if you still think everything you need to do has to be top caliber and portfolio-worthy, you need to let that go real quick. The vast majority of work you do over a career you will never look at or think about again, even if you liked it.
>I wish they could understand us better.
But they’re not designers. I guarantee there are people you deal with who say the same about you, in terms of wishing you understood them better. Most people, even designers, are like that when it comes to tech, cars, finances, etc.
Constantly..it’s as if all my experience and degree was all for nothing..but usually whatever they want or so direly need asap ends with a crap design so I work with them whilst following whatever style guide is used and figure something out in the middle. They usually are happy with the result…if not they complain and I give them whatever they want and it usually reverts to my previous style guide driven design.
Not really. My stakeholders know their niche better than me, which means they have a strong vision and I have faith they know what they want, and that I can execute their dream.
But imagine getting hired at Adidas after however many years at FIDM or some Italian school of hoity toity and being told “just do whatever that Kenye guy wants” lmfao
Even if you work directly with clients, many of them tell you how to design. You might want to hobby in fine art if you want sole control.
I had this happen recently with a client telling me how to design something because they said they were a designer too (as it turned out they used to design stage sets). Their repeated requests for complete redesigns (with little relation to the written brief) chewed up 60% of the $7k budget with almost nothing to show for it. It derailed the entire project and stressed me out to the point I had to withdraw my services.